Winslow Jr. rejects Browns record pact....turns down offer that exceeds KC's Gonzales

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BEREA, Ohio (AP) -- Apparently 80 isn't the only number Kellen Winslow Jr. is after.

Winslow's agent rejected a contract offer -- potentially worth at least $40 million -- from the Cleveland Browns on Friday that would make him the highest paid tight end in NFL history.

Winslow, the No. 6 overall pick in April's NFL draft, was not on the field as the Browns opened training camp.

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``I believe the most disappointed guy is Kellen for not being here from the beginning with his teammates,'' coach Butch Davis said.

He's not the only one displeased.

The Browns are hoping to avoid a lengthy holdout with Winslow, the former University of Miami star. Winslow was issued No. 11 by the club during mini-camp but wants No. 80 -- the number his father wore during his Hall of Fame career for San Diego.

However, No. 80 currently belongs to Aaron Shea, who will only give it up for the right price.

``It's going to cost him now,'' Shea joked. ``And it's going to go up every day.''

In an unusual move designed to put pressure on Winslow's agent, Kevin Poston, Browns president John Collins released a statement before the club opened camp to announce that the Browns had made their ``best offer'' to Winslow.

Collins said the Browns proposed a deal that matched the one safety Sean Taylor, the No. 5 pick and Winslow's college teammate, signed this week with Washington.

Taylor's package included a $7.2 million signing bonus that could exceed $13 million if he reaches incentives. The contract can reportedly escalate to $40 million over its length.

Also, the Browns said their offer would ``far exceed'' the $31 million deal Kansas City's Tony Gonzalez signed in 2002. That package included a $10 million signing bonus, the most ever for a tight end.

The Browns' negotiating tactic is unusual because teams almost never disclose contract figures -- even after a deal is done. But the Browns, who earlier this week said they would keep talks private, publicly provided the framework for negotiations.

Poston wouldn't elaborate on his decision to reject the offer.

``I do not negotiate in the media,'' Poston told The Associated Press. ``We are continuing to negotiate with the Browns to obtain for Kellen Winslow II his fair market value.''

Winslow is expected to be a major weapon this season for quarterback Jeff Garcia, who is already convinced the 6-foot-4, 250-pounder will be a star.

``Better than advertised,'' Garcia said following practice. ``He's definitely the real deal and he's going to be a great player for years to come.''

Winslow's holdout began one day after the New York Giants gave No. 1 pick Eli Manning a rookie-record $20 million in guaranteed money and No. 2 overall pick Robert Gallery received a potential $18.5 million in guaranteed bonuses from Oakland.

It's unclear what Poston wants, but the Browns feel their offer that matched Taylor's was more than fair.

``Given the close personal and competitive relationship between Kellen and Sean Taylor, as well as their equal talent level on different sides of the football, we did not want to penalize Kellen for being picked one slot below his former teammate,'' Collins said in the statement.

``Faced with the opportunity to get Kellen in camp on time, we made our best offer.''

Poston and his brother, Carl, have a reputation for demanding the most for their clients. The Redskins passed on Winslow in the draft partly because Winslow chose the Postons as his agents.

One positive sign for the Browns is that wide receiver Reggie Williams, another client of the Postons, agreed to terms with Jacksonville on Friday. He was the ninth overall pick.

In their statement, the Browns said they examined Gonzalez's deal and their offer ``provides Kellen Winslow the opportunity to far exceed Gonzalez's compensation.''

The Browns traded a second-round pick to Detroit and moved up one spot from No. 7 so they could select Winslow, who was frequently double-teamed in college.

Cleveland's last three first-round picks -- center Jeff Faine, running back William Green and defensive tackle Gerard Warren -- briefly held out of camp before signing.

This one could last a lot longer.

But for now, Winslow has the support of his teammates.

``I'd understand if he has to be out a few days or a few weeks,'' Green said. ``Nobody has any bad feelings toward Kellen.''
 

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WINSLOW IS A PEICE OF SHIT. why should he get more than the person drafted higher than him???

i hope cleveland sticks to their guns and doesnt offer him any more than they already have.
 

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I have often thought the same about him...he seems so different than his father..I wonder if Kellen Winslow raised him?
 
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he is exactly like his father. Have you seen his dad in any interviews? Kellen Sr is a gigantic racist, an arrogant bastard and his son is exactly like him. Hope he hurts himself in week 1.
 

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I have seen Winslow carry on a bit in the studio with his counterpart...I assumed it was an act to draw ratings...

As a player, Winslow was nothing like his animated son...
 

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Let me take a contrary view, as a 40-year Browns fan. This episode is typical of Davis, and remember, he controls EVERYTHING that happens with this team. Earlier this week he said the Browns "would not negotiate through the media.." Less than 100 hours later, the Browns are doing just that. It's only the latest example of Davis lying, or at best telling half-truths. Did anyone hear Winslow or his agents complain that no porgress was being made? No. And their response to the Browns' amateurish tactic Browns has been perfect...they still have yet to be really critical of the team.

I am not a Winslow apologist. he is a knucklehead who will cost the Browns at least one game this year with a stupid penalty. He is also so talented that my guess is he can miss a couple of weeks of practice and still be pretty well set to go by opening day. By the way, every day he doesn't practice is one less opprotunity for him to suffer an injury.

Hey, let Winslow and his agents go for everything they can...everyone else does, from Jim Thome to Carlos the Eskimo Boozer. My only complaint is with people who are dishonest about what they want and how they go about it. Both Thome and Boozer were dishonest. So far, and this could change tomorrow, Winslow and his people have been straight up.

Hey, Butchie knew what he was getting into when he drafted this prima donna (and if he didn't, it's just one more reason why our beloved absentee owner should open his eyes and get rid of him). Der Fuhrer is just gonna have to deal with it.
 

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nomad- I was wondering the same thing...first they say they will no be negotiating in the media then do just that...Winslow is a can't miss stud though! Why he has to act that way is beyond me???
 

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I remember when his father showed the same kind of grandstanding and showboating.

It was that game in Miami that had a couple of overtimes.

Yes, it was a warm day, but a young professional athlete should be able to play an afternoon football game without gasping, letting his knees sag and needing two teamates to help him off the field, as he enjoyed the roar of the crowd following a ten second play.
 

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the 'hook and lateral' game...a real classic...Winslow did everyting but serve popcorn that day...I still don't think of Kellen Winslow as a hot dog type player, nothing like his son has shown.
 

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